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Any info on this incident would be great if I could find the Fox sailor who pulled me from the cargo door of the helo....The Fox had to return to Subic to have the helo removed from the starboard aft side of the ship....Thanks

I think cwo doug jones was the landing officer that day.

Could it have been another year? I was on the Fox in spring of '73 but recall no helo accident as you describe
Yeah, CWO Jones was in charge and it was Spring 73.

Ship was at PIRAZ station and had to move down to Yankee station to see if it could be hoisted off by one of the carriers. From there, made a mad dash to Subic and back.
doug jones
I am CWO Doug Jones and I was the LSO when the incident happened.  I don't recall seeing anyone departing the helo, so can't help you there. 

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                         it was me  cliff powers that pulled you back,I was the guy in the first lueys office

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I watched it happen from the signal bridge. We were lucky that day. I've got photos of the off-load at Subic if anyone needs them...
There was a night time man overboard recovery during that mad dash to Subic.

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WOW  an interesting untold story outside those which were involved.  This topic and others are what the webmaster is looking for our association historian.  We have cruise books but they lack the inside story.  Hey you came across as Unregistered.  Why not file out the forms and become known to the group.     Be safe.   JF Harry RM3 Plankowner


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I was on the helo crew when the helo hit the life rails. When the blades started coming apart I pulled somebody back into the helo bay. That night I believe it was RANDY ROUSH that was topside on a break the ship took a roll and because the helo nets  were down he went overboard. Aft lookout reported it immediately and gunnersmate Martin who was the ships diver at the time got him back on board. I had bought some car parts from randy and I knew him pretty well. He said the best feeling in the world was seeing the ship turning around. He thought he was a goner.  If anyone has any questions you can contact me at

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Don't remember the helo crash, but I sure do remember the Man Overboard incident.  This is how I remember the event:

It was late at night, shortly before the mid watch took over.  Sometime between 11:00 and midnight, if I remember correctly.  We were steaming toward Subic at something like 20 knots, might have been 25 knots, but I think it was 20 because of the formula explained below.  All was quiet.  I was the surface-side supervisor in CIC, an OS2 at the time.  Part of our duties are to supply the lookouts.  One on each bridge wing and the aft lookout.  We were in constant communication with them, as was the bridge.

Suddenly we heard the announcement from the aft lookout.  "Man overboard!  Starboard side!"  Everybody just froze.  Nobody could believe what we just heard.  It was as if time had stopped.  Then, my training kicked in and I jumped on the DRT, (Dead Reckoning Tracer), marked the position of the man in the water and started guiding the ship back to him.

There is a formula we use when we run a man overboard drill.  We take the ships speed, double it, and add a zero.  That is how many yards he is behind us, (the formula takes into account the speed of the ship and the time delay between the actual event and when we hear about it).  The DRT has a gyro driven compass rose shining up onto a piece of paper with a protractor arm on the glass.  The compass rose moves to the motion of the ship and the protractor arm gives distances with its ruler and bearing with its protractor.

After marking the man's position, the first thing I said was "Bridge, Combat.  Man overboard.  Recommend right full rudder.  Man bears xxx degrees relative, 400 yards."  (This gives everyone a position of where to look for a man in the water.)  As the ship turns, I repeat his position from us about every five seconds or so.  At the speed we were going, it takes about a mile to turn the ship around.  The horizon isn't very far away and a man with only his head in the water must have thought his life was over as he watched the ship go over the horizon.  If I remember correctly, it was a dark, cloudy night.  No moonlight or starlight.  It was dark!  Really, really dark.

The thing I remember most is that I was so scared that everyone could visibly see my hand shaking. It was not very steady.  I couldn't hold the pencil steady.  I had never been so scared in my life, and haven't been so scared since.  I knew that if we didn't spot him the first time around, that we would never find him and he would die.  I felt that his life was in my own personal hands.

From what I heard and understand, we did spot him on that first pass.  In fact, I was told that we almost ran over him.  I had also heard that once we arrived at Subic, he went AWOL.  Maybe not true, but that is what I heard.  If he did, I just hope the Navy went easy on him because I can imagine the terror he felt that night.  i was told he tripped over a chock and the aft lookout either heard or saw him go over.  Good thing because that particular aft lookout had a reputation as a goof off.

Never did receive a thank you or a kudos for guiding the ship back to him.  Not that it is important.  It was my job.  Would have been nice to hear a bravo zulu.

-Steven Adams, OS2, USS Fox DLG33 '73
I knew the guy that fell over and he did not go awol as when we went to drydock when we got back he helped me build my car.
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