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philhabib

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Registered: 01/05/10
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	03/10/10 at 01:42 PM	#1

Got this from a shipmate on another ship. The Lawyers' Party By Bruce Walker A different perspective………. The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers' Party. Barack Obama is a lawyer. Michelle Obama is a lawyer. Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. Bill Clinton is a lawyer. John Edwards is a lawyer. Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate). Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school. Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress: Harry Reid is a lawyer. Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.. The Republican Party is different. President Bush is a businessman. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.. Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich. The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America . And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow. Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation. This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side. Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become "adverse parties" of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers. Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing. We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy. Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse. The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as "spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you" and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high!
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Michael Coffey

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 2

	04/21/10 at 11:37 AM	#2

While cruising the net I stopped at the Fox message board as I do from time to time, checking to see the who, what, why and where...and I was extremely disappointed to come across this political screed by this Bruce Walker fellow. I really don't think this is the proper place for such evangelizing but there it is. Now I'm just a working stiff, a carpenter by trade for the past 40 yrs. or so, I own my own business, meet a payroll, yadda, yadda, yadda, so perhaps I'm too simple minded to understand, but I resent someone presuming to speak for me, or to me in such a condescending manner. As my old man used to say, "Either you're real stupid or you think I am." Now I'm cool with a political conversation or discussion or argument as long as everyone involved maintains respect for the point of view of others and doesn't try to foist his opinions down other peoples throats as if he (or she) has some special knowledge unavailable to everyone else, like this load of horse sht Walker is trying to dump here. As a small businessman who deals with contracts and zoning laws and local government bureaucrats everyday, I also spend quite a bit of time dealing with (shudder, shudder) LAWYERS !!! Now I don't know Brucies history or circumstances, and I feel oh so bad if the legal system has fed him over, but I don't think he quite understands the function and importance of lawyers in our system but I urge him to educate himself, he might be amazed to find out they're just workin' folks, takin' care of their families, goin' to church, takin' the kids to soccer practice... Now this is not to say there are not jerks and reprobates amoung them, but you don't shoot all the dogs 'cause one has fleas. It's not easy to become a lawyer, it takes alot of study and hard work and more than a few years. People of accomplishment should be applauded. A jerk is a jerk not-withstanding his given profession, it is just plain stupid to think that the term LAWYER is a negative sobriquet, I invite everyone to take out your insurance policy or mortgage or cell phone agreement and give it a quick read, it was not composed by President Obama, the Clintons, The Edwards', Reid or Pelosi but surely by a lawyer for the particular corporate entity you're dealing with and that lawyer is more than likely a member of the Republic Party. I can't help but comment on some of Brucies other assertions. "President Bush is a businessman". I started out in business with a hammer, tape, wire and saw in the trunk of my car and built from there, Dubya graduated from Yale (with a low C average btw), went to graduate school and then to work in his old man's oil business. Prince Saud and his Pa bankrolled his venture into the oil business on his own which in a relatively short period of time he ran into the ground (in the end being investigated by the SEC for insider trading). He went back to work on his father's political campaign for President, then later bought shares in the Texas Rangers baseball franchise. The ultimate preppy dweeb son of a rich oil family, his Texas pedigree is of the "all hat, no cattle" variety, a true Elite, "born on third, thinks he hit a triple", in the words of Jim Hightower. "Vice-President Cheney is a businessman". Cheney also went to Yale (thought to be a school impossible to flunk out of) and flunked out. He continued his academic adventure at Casper Community College (with the draft ramping up in 1963), and received his first student deferment. Then on to the University of Wyoming where he completed a four year program in six years, incidentally receiving two more student deferments. When President Johnson doubled the number of draftees in 1965 (an occassion that I remember well--they included my name in that group) Dick entered grad school and who'd-a-thunk-it got another deferment. He got his fifth, a "hardship" deferment when his wife became pregnant with their first child. In 1967 he became too old for the draft, but to be fair, in his own words, "I had other priorities in the '60's." (I can relate, I did too, but I was called on by my country to serve, as so many of us were, and I was (and am) proud to have followed in the footsteps of my father and uncles and so many others who understand that "duty" is part of the privilege of living in this blessed country). From grad school Dick joined the Nixon team as an intern, went on to work for Ford and later was elected to the House where he served until 1989. He became G.H.W.B.'s Secretary of Defense and in 1995 he went into the "private sector" as CEO of Halliburton (not a bad entry job into "business). Not that being a former Sec. of Def. had anything to do with joining a company engaged in war profiteering or that the billions of dollars in no-bid contracts are in any way related, but is "businessman" really the best word to describe this fellow? I'm just askin'. Newt Gingrich was a History Professor" (I also like when Brucie later asserts that Newt was "immersed in History", good stuff!). Newt fulfilled the dream of many a high school student by marrying his geometry teacher, an already married 26 yr. old, who bankrolled his education through College and graduate studies at Emory University and then Tulane where he earned a Ph.D. in Modern European History (Including France!), (his doctoral dissertation was on the hotbed topic of Belgian Educational Policy in Africa). He taught history at the Univ. of West Georgia (USA) until he won a seat in Congress after two unsuccessful attempts. While his wife was recovering from life threatening cancer surgery, he confessed too committing adultery with his soon to be second wife. Though she had borne two children with him and put him through College and Grad-school he dumped her after deciding she wasn't "young enough or pretty enough to be the wife of a president". In 1997 he received a reprimand from the House Ethics Comitteefor violations dating back several years, the first time in the history of the republic a Speaker had been disciplined for ethical wrong doing (that's the immerced in history part, I think). On the positive side he made a deal to admit guilt to one of the charges against him so that the other 83 would be dropped. In 2000 he divorced his second wife after the revealation of his affair with a House intern, 23 years his younger (of course she didn't wear a beret so...). To call this fellow a History professor just doesn't quite capture his full glory as a professional hypocrite, loudmouth, panderer and adulterer, but at least he isn't a (shudder,shudder) lawyer! "Tom DeLay was an exterminator." (Walker double underlines exterminator [I'm not quite sure how to do that] and I'm also not sure exactly what impact he intends by it...). Like Newton, DeLay is so much more than just an "Orkin Man", he was a pre-med student at Baylor, where he was kicked out for drinking! (I have in my lifetime visited this fine University and I just need to remark that this is an enormous achievement, drinking at Baylor at times approaches an Artform). He went on to the University of Houston where he earned a BA in Biology and garnered a reputation for (all together now) drinking, debauchery and adulterous behavior. "Hot tub Tom" they called him (imagine that Bay of Pigs if you will). After a tour in the Texas legislature (See Molly Ivins) he went to Washington. His career is distinguished by 20 years of charges of embezzlement of campaign funds, first class trips to London, staying at Englands finest 5-star hotels, trips to play golf at St. Andrews all paid for by lobbyists who accompanied him so he wouldn't be lonely and in case his needs extended in an unforseen direction, of course, he ignored the admonishments of the Congressional Ethics Comittee(s), he engineered an absurd redistricting scheme to insure the Republic Parties continued control of elections, he conducted the Indian Casino saga, creatively absorbed dubious donations to his legal defense fund, and absolved himself of all this by becoming a "Born Again Christian", Praise Jesus! in 1985. "Dick Armey was an economist." (Also a double emphasis on econ...hmmmm) Well, not exactly. He does have a Ph.D. in Economics from the University of Oklahoma, and he did teach economics at North Texas State Univ. He was elected to the House in 1984 and conceived the commission that became responsible for identifying which military bases should be closed. A fervent supporter of privatization of Social (Oooooh) Security and the phasing out of farm subsidies (those freeloaders). Several of his former female students have publically accused this Dick of sexual harrassment and at least one student transferred to another University to escape his attentions (or intentions, as the case may be). He divorced his then wife to marry another of his students. He is a free-market economic theorist influenced by the work of Milton Friedman, he favors relatively open immigration and elimination of barriers to the movement of goods and people across national bounderies. At the start of 2003, this Dick joined the Washington office of the LAW firm of DLA Piper, engaged in the lucrative field of lobbying for the phamaceutical industry. He lobbyed on behalf of the passage of Health Care reform!! (of course, at the same time he was Chairman of the conservative lobbying group, Freedom Works, who were organizing and bankrolling the anti-Health Care forces). Conflict of interest anyone? Ah Hell, it's nothin' personal, it' only business!! "Hose Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer." Well he was a salesman (and later the president) for a small sales business in the packaging and plastics industry.... You know I could go on and on and on with this, there isn't a line in this whole fing propaganda monologue that isn't bogus.. When someone has to lie and misrepresent (not differing opinions) but people who see the world differently, they just expose themselves as idiots. Idiots because they think other people are not bright enough to see through this bullsht. Believe what you want, work for the candidates and ideas you support, step up and argue your point of view but if you don't understand that that very process is the messy and uncomfortable way that the machinery is designed, so that change and progress is examined in it's details and the government (that is me and you and every other citizen, not Them Democrats or Those Republicans, but US!!!) can move forward and make corrections along the course of the way, but all pulling in the same direction. This pulling in opposite directions and whining when you don't get your way results in the DIW situation ALL these RICH POLITICIANS enjoy. By the way Mr. Walker, I hope they're still giving out brains when you get to Oz.
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Torin

Registered: 10/02/10
Posts: 2

	10/02/10 at 10:08 AM	#3

Nice rebuttal.
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sparkirm1

Registered: 04/23/12
Posts: 1

	04/23/12 at 03:43 PM	#4

As my father always told me "Good Lawyers Make MONEY", BAD LAWYERS become POLITICIANS!!!!!!!!!
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